What's the current Mega Pokemon tier list for Sun and Moon? User Info: AuraWielder. AuraWielder 2 years ago #1. Rayquaza is god tier. Gengar, Salamence, Lucario, Kangaskhan, Mewtwos, and Metagross are top tier. Venusaur, Charizards. Alakazam, Mawile, Scizor, and Medicham are great tier.
OU Hackmons Combinations:w/ Contrary AbilityPokemon using powerful attacks that reduce their own status moves that actually reverses the effect with this ability to keep getting stronger instead.Moves and effects:. Close Combat – Def and Sp.Def +1. Draco Meteor – Sp.Atk +2. Superpower – Atk and Def +1.
V-create – Def, Sp.Def and Speed +1. Dragon Ascent - See Close Combat. Leaf Storm - ALL CHARACTERS ARE NOW SERPERIOR HUEHUEHUE (See Draco Meteor)w/ No Guard AbilityA Pokemon with this ability are highly likely using either: Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill or Sheer Cold. Shuckle makes it a perfect Pokemon to deploy 1 hit moves directly and sucessfully due to its bulk. Another Pokemon to use would be a max speed Deoxy holding a Focus Sash. N/a inBalanced Hackmonsw/ RefrigerateKyurem-B with a max attack using the moves Extreme Speed and Fake Out. Item of choices Normal Gem and Life Orb.
Ouch, didnt think of that.w/ Wonder GuardA Pure Eletric Type Pokemon holding an Air Balloon. Makes user invulnerable to all attacks excluding Mold Breaker ability and Special Type moves. Handy moves for this combination are: Mean Look, Perish Song, Toxic and Wish. Be prepaired for soundproof oppounents blocking Perish Song.n/a in Balanced HackmonsThis is a starting list from info I've seen from others and some strategies from myself. W/ SturdyThis applies mostly to Shedinja, who can become invincible bar Status moves (and can hold a Lum berry).
Also makes Deo-S an insane suicide lead.w/ SimpleOh Bibarel, how I hate thee. Anyway, Deo-A gets +6 in one turn and starts killing things. Here are a few moves that it works well with:. Tail Glow: +6 SpAtk. Swords Dance: +4 Atk. Cosmic Power: +2 SpDef, +2 Def.
Cotton Guard: +6 Def. Shift Gear: +4 Speed, +2 Attack.
Geomancy: +4SpAtk, +4 SpDef, +4 Speed in 1 turn w/ Power Herb. Quiver Dance: +2 to SpAtk, SpDef, SpeedMultiple MegasYea, this is a thing. Mega Mewtwo Y exists.
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But you can use him on a team with Mega Scizor. AND YOU CAN MEGA EVOLVE MEGA MEWTWO Y INTO MEGA MEWTWO X. Just wanted to point that out:P Also, Megas can hold Items, a la Rayquaza.
Oh, and Ryq can m-evo without Dragon Ascent. But why in Arceus' name would you want to run Ryq w/o D-AscentIll add more when Im not pressed for time. So I decided to look at how abusive Simple actually is, and I saw the following: THIS IS TURN 2, after a Simple boosted Tail Glow+6 252+ SpAtk Focus Sash Simple Deoxys-S Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP/252+ SpDef Magikarp: 15844 - 18642 (75447.6 - 88771.4%) - guaranteed OHKOOk, so there is obviously not going to be many Magikarp users in Hackmons, but look at those numbers. Lets check some semi-viable pokemon:+6 252+ SpAtk Focus Sash Simple Deoxys-S Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP/252+ SpDef Leftovers Blissey: 471 - 555 (66 - 77.7%) - guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers+6 252+ SpAtk Focus Sash Simple Deoxys-S Psycho Boost vs.
252 HP/252+ SpDef Eviolite Chansey: 375 - 442 (53.3 - 62.8%) - guaranteed 2HKO+6 252+ SpAtk Focus Sash Simple Deoxys-S Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP/252+ SpDef Primal Kyogre: 415 - 489 (102.7 - 121%) - guaranteed OHKO+6 252+ SpAtk Focus Sash Simple Deoxys-S Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP/252+ SpDef Leftovers Regice: 348 - 411 (95.6 - 112.9%) - 75% chance to OHKO after LeftoversI selected Deo-S for these calcs because it can outspeed any unboosted non-priority move w/o Scarf. I think Ninjask can outspeed I run Modest and he runs Timid, but what is a Ninjask going to do to anyone in this tier?I am going to add a couple things to my list above in a few minutes. EDIT: Added a bit on Mega Evolutions so it gets out there. They exist.Also, if you need a Tier Leader, I nominate Nightfall AlicornEDIT: I maded a sample team with the Smogon tb (Mac client isnt working atm). I has called it Shedinja of the Five Formes.
Because I can. BP becomes negligible in this tier, because every pokemon has the same boosting capability. If every pokemon has access to Shell Smash (Oh, add this to the Simple abuse list), then why do I want to pass on a Shell Smash? Might get yonder Complex Ban from OU, but only in Balanced.
There are far more annoying things in Hackmons. Like Shedinja. Ok, lets give every pokemon in the game access to a move combo banned in all main tiers. It works just ike it did in OU, which was annoying as hell. But hey, Moody exists in this tier too, so im not complaining. If I were a tier leader, I'd let it play out as-is for a week or two and suspect SwagShit and/or Moody as neededAlso, Transforming Chansey is annoying. I dont get why people are at all talking about contrary: it's mediocre at best.
Things like 4atks mm2x are decent abusers, but you have to run v-create/leaf storm/draco/tarrows to even hit common WG users. Even still youre walled by more niche WG users, and powder mscizor basicly just pp stalls you. It has the potential to be decent, but should probably be used with something like shadow tag m-aero to trap WG'ers. So you can actually 'sweep'. You just really do not need contrary, as you ohko things you need to ohko anyway. Just run mold breaker on pokemon like this, I rarely see the point in running it, ever.
If you like the idea of something super powerful, pure power is much better so try that instead. Things like mold breaker SS mega latios and SS megagar are much more threatening and much more deadly. Don't forgot this tier is, and always be, ruled by wonder guard users and coverage to hit them.
Obviously parting shot users like prankster aegis are fantastic, no guard+sheer cold deo-s still remains threatening. It's not good as a lead, but can be a very effective cleaner when they only have 1 WG user left. Tspikes+ sheer cold/no guard is deadly btw, soo hard to deal with. Just make sure you have a good fake out/espeed mray switch-in.Cant wait to make people rage who arent prepared for standard things like imposter chans/subcurse prankster giratina and wonderguarders:D. I dont get why people are at all talking about contrary: it's mediocre at best.
Things like 4atks mm2x are decent abusers, but you have to run v-create/leaf storm/draco/tarrows to even hit common WG users. Even still youre walled by more niche WG users, and powder mscizor basicly just pp stalls you. It has the potential to be decent, but should probably be used with something like shadow tag m-aero to trap WG'ers. So you can actually 'sweep'. You just really do not need contrary, as you ohko things you need to ohko anyway.
Just run mold breaker on pokemon like this, I rarely see the point in running it, ever. If you like the idea of something super powerful, pure power is much better so try that instead. Things like mold breaker SS mega latios and SS megagar are much more threatening and much more deadly.
Don't forgot this tier is, and always be, ruled by wonder guard users and coverage to hit them. Obviously parting shot users like prankster aegis are fantastic, no guard+sheer cold deo-s still remains threatening. It's not good as a lead, but can be a very effective cleaner when they only have 1 WG user left. Tspikes+ sheer cold/no guard is deadly btw, soo hard to deal with. Just make sure you have a good fake out/espeed mray switch-in.Cant wait to make people rage who arent prepared for standard things like imposter chans/subcurse prankster giratina and wonderguarders:D.
I actually think -ate abilities aren't that bad. Gastro Acid + Prankster will get rid of -ate abilities, causing the -ate Pokemon to switch out and you can bring something else to set up or start sweeping.
And the 1 -ate ability restriction is already good enough.I agree with Sleep Clause, so there's more room for the metagame to grow. No use if all of your Pokemon are running Safety Goggles or Magic Bounce, like some people.cough.Topsy-Turvy pretty much deals away with Contrary, and Impostor Blissey/Chansey that may have gotten boosts.Hoopa-B's typing and signature move, Hyperspace Fury, combined with a decent movepool, can stop Impostor Blissey/Chansey in it's tracks. Ate abilities:These are the least counterable things in the meta atm, which is why they have a usage limit. The biggest abusers seem to be Diancie and Rayquaza, but I have seen others. Everything that has STAB on Fairy, Ice, or Flying can use this.
Giving a pokemon a STAB Fake Out and ESpeed seems troubling, and it causes most teams slight issues.Potential Checks/Counters:Anything that resists the type in questionShedinja (Your free STAB matters not if it can't kill me)Gastro AcidImpostor bratsContrary:The thing that boosted an NU pokemon with one of the worst typing and movepool in the game into UU is a very good BH ability. Lets look at it's abusers. Close Combat – Def and Sp.Def +1. Dragon Ascent – Def and Sp.Def +1. Draco Meteor – Sp.Atk +2. Leaf Storm – Sp.Atk +2. Psycho Boost - Sp.Atk +2.
Superpower – Atk and Def +1. V-create – Def, Sp.Def and Speed +1.The biggest issues here are D-Meteor and V-Create. D-Meteor hurts like a truck, but is outclassed by V-Create. Let me put it this way: If it doesn't resist Fire, it can't take a P-Groudon V-Create. A OHKO move that RAISES stats is insane. But it has it's countersPotential Checks/Counters:Topsy-Turvy/Heart SwapShedinjaGastro AcidImpostor bratsPrankster:SoonSleep Clause:This ties in with Prankster. The ability to switch out a sleeping pokemon and not worry about more prankster-spore nerfs that combo quite heavily.
Adding this seems like the best way to deal with Prankster while still letting it exist.Impostor:This counters everything else.Potential C/C:Hoopa-Binhuman predictionDerpinja (Sturdy Shedinja):This forces teams to run non-offensive moves that it wouldn't otherwise run. This is the entire reason trapping moves exist in this tier.Baton Pass:Is not broken (soon)Ill add more when I'm not putting off a History essayTry to focus this convo on the tier that could actually change, not the tier with no banlist. Because Chatter is annoying as hell on a pokemon with 0 stats and we dont want a pokemon with an 800 BST and/or an -ate ability spamming it.252+ SpAtk Pixie Plate Pixilate Mega Diancie Chatter vs. 252 HP/252 SpDef Mega Salamence: 78 - 92 (19.8 - 23.4%) - 100% chance to 5HKO252+ SpAtk Aerilate Mega Rayquaza Chatter vs. 252 HP/252 SpDef Mega Salamence: 127 - 150 (32.2 - 38.1%) - 96.7% chance to 3HKO252+ SpAtk Sky Plate Aerilate Mega Rayquaza Chatter vs. 252 HP/252 SpDef Mega Salamence: 153 - 180 (38.8 - 45.7%) - guaranteed 3HKO3HKOs and 5HKOs dont seem impressive, but it has a 100% confuse chance.
Follow up with a Boomburst and things that aren't Blissey die. Dont use Special moves on a Blissey.